Proving Citizenship after we lose Habeas Corpus

Olbermann’s special comment this week is yet another masterpiece. Read the thread on Tailrank if you need more convincing.

He’s added another angle which I think is perfectly valid:

… if you somehow think habeas corpus has somehow not been suspended for american citizens but only for everyone else then ask yourself this: if you are pulled of the street tomorrow and they call you an alien or an undocumented imigrant or an unlawful enemy combatant exactly how are you going to convince them to give you a court hearing to prove you are not?

I’ve said before that there are things you can’t argue against and still call yourself an american – habeas corpus is one of them.

If you’re a Republican arguing for this bill you’re a traitor to everything this country stands for and should be ashamed.

It’s these protections that make this country great. The more we strip the geneva convention, the more we torture “enemy combatants,” and the more we destroy habeas corpus the more we destroy the very heart of America.


  1. Heabus Corpus has been suspended a long time ago. Abraham Lincon did it in the Civil War. He waged war against other Americans.
    What bothers me, is that liberals fret over non-citizens. Beligerants who want to us dead.

  2. Abraham Lincon suspended Habeas Corpus a long time ago. What bothers me, however, is that we fret over the rights of non-citizens. Beligerants who want us dead.

  3. “Abraham Lincon suspended Habeas Corpus a long time ago. ”

    Yes……. and the Alien and Sedition acts. It was a bad idea then and it’s a bad idea now.

    “What bothers me, however, is that we fret over the rights of non-citizens. Beligerants who want us dead.”

    I don’t care about terrorists. I want to see the governnment go after them and throw the book at them.

    If however we resort to their tactics then we’ve already lost. Torture, violation of the 4th Amendment, and secret governments courts are not the solution – they’re the problem.

    I want to give the government every weapon in this war short of shredding the constitution.






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